No More Can Opener :(

"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
09/27/2018 at 10:42 • Filed to: None

Looks like YouTube is being YouTube and pulled all monetization from 11foot8 (the trucks crashing into train bridge site/videos) and they’re leaving YouTube. Fuck you, YouTube.

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DISCUSSION (42)

The Dummy Gummy > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 10:55

I don’t get why they’re demonetizing...

random001 > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 10:57

That seems like some serious bullshit...

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > The Dummy Gummy
09/27/2018 at 10:58

Because they’re not overly dramatic vloggers.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Dummy Gummy
09/27/2018 at 10:58

YouTube/Google/Alphabet are the dumbs and have zero idea how to run their business without pissing off their users continually.

The Ghost of Oppo > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:00

Youtube is fine with taking 98 % of the ad revenue from prank videos aka assholes terrorizing innocent people on the street and mentally and physically abusing their children, but videos of trucks running into a low bridge? That’s gotta go.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:00

why is it being de monetized?

i thought you just had to have 1000 subscribers? (something like that anyway)

they have nearly 50k... wierd?

Goggles Pizzano > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:02

“Well I’m not a robot that’s what I can tell.”

Typical robot response.

The Ghost of Oppo > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
09/27/2018 at 11:03

This is what happens when you have a monopoly in a certain segment and are apart of an oligopoly in an entire industry .

Sovande > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:07

Reading the exchange is painful. The “creator” signed a contract that can be canceled at any ti me for any reason by YouTube. YouTube decided to do just that for whatever reason. The creator then acts like a child and accuses YouTube of essentially stealing money from them. Which is absurd because the reality is that YouTube had actually provided them a platform on which to earn money. The creator then threatens to sue for “lost income” which is completely dopey. Pretending these folks “created” something is absurd.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND TRUCKS HITTING BRIDGES CONTENT NOW???

Takuro Spirit > The Dummy Gummy
09/27/2018 at 11:11

My guess is ‘ violence’ , or the number of company names visible on the trucks.

Takuro Spirit > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
09/27/2018 at 11:12

Probably because of the type of content. YouTube can and will revoke monetization from a single video to an entire channel for seemingly no reason whenever they want.

Takuro Spirit > Sovande
09/27/2018 at 11:13

I hope they livestream the bridge 24/7 on Twitch.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:13

well.... that sucks

Urambo Tauro > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:22

I hope 11foot8 just sets their videos to Private or Unlisted, so that they can change them back should YouTube ever get their act together.

Sovande > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 11:23

I just don’t see this as a big loss for the world as a whole. I simply can’t care. I like YouTube, it has old music I like to watch. I think using it as a main revenue stream without reading the contract they provide is probably a bad business decision.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > The Ghost of Oppo
09/27/2018 at 11:32

Yup.

And are we going to do anything about it?

Nope.

We aren’t allowed to have nice things.

Echo51 > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
09/27/2018 at 11:32

“need at least 4,000 watch hours in the previous 12 months and 1,000 subscribers”

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Echo51
09/27/2018 at 11:35

well.... thats gonna get rid of a lot of smaller channels

nerd_racing > The Ghost of Oppo
09/27/2018 at 11:53

My guess is that some trucking company or driver sued them for hosing content that hurt their insurance claim case.

Takuro Spirit > Sovande
09/27/2018 at 11:54

I’m not going to argue YouTubers ‘jobs’, but when you’re used to being paid for a thing, and invest time in a thing to get paid, suddenly not getting paid and not being told exactly why seems to be upsetting.

It’d be like if eBay’s terms and conditions had some fine print saying that suddenly and for no reason they could deem your item value to be set to $0 after you already sold and shipped it, after you had sold HUNDREDS for a profit.

The Ghost of Oppo > nerd_racing
09/27/2018 at 11:59

So, you can now sue people for housing evidence of the truth?

The Dummy Gummy > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 12:18

You’re probably right, but they leave video’s up monetized videos of parents beating kids but weird this gets the take down.

Sovande > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 12:22

It’s not actually like that all.

It sounds like they violated a term of they contract and as a result of the violation they were no longer monetized. It would be like if you signed a contract, didn’t read all the details, posted some videos, got paid for having a certain number of followers or clicks and then the hosting party decided you had violated a part of the contract you didn’t read and then said you could no longer make money off the videos you had posted on their site using their servers and their proprietary software.

But that’s just like my opinion.

Takuro Spirit > Sovande
09/27/2018 at 12:25

The problem is, is that there IS no terms in said contract... there’s barely even a contract . You’re not told what may or may not violate advertiser’s right to pull ads, or even who pulled them.

I have a monetized YouTube channel, so I know what they’re going through.

Sovande > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 12:28

And if they pull the plug on your channel, which sounds like it can happen at any time, how will you react? I imagine it will be in a more adult fashion than the lady who aimed a camera at a bridge and then went so far as pretending she created something. My reaction would be “holy shit, I can’t believe we got away with making money for uploading a traffic cam for so long.” Fr ankly I can’t believe someone else didn’t face a camera at the bridge and make money too.

Takuro Spirit > Sovande
09/27/2018 at 12:33

My little channel, that’s been dying for over a year? Meh, I could care less.

If I had one like theirs, I’d be a little miffed.

They have a decent camera setup, REALLY good audio, and I’m not sure how they mine for the footage but there’s a large expense in keeping that much data recording day in and day out, plus it takes time to find, edit, and upload the video.

Plus there could be many other variables we know nothing about.

But like I said, once you get used to making money off something, to have it suddenly shut off for no given reason is bullshit, and its affecting many many YouTubers all over.

facw > The Ghost of Oppo
09/27/2018 at 12:58

You can sue people for anything. You may not be very successful, but you can do it. And it may still be a significant expense and hassle for the defending party to fight the challenge in court.

facw > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 13:02

How is it like that at all? If you want to compare to ebay, it would be like ebay saying they won’t post your auctions/sales anymore. Which does happen, and can be a big hit to sellers. Youtube may be more arbitrary (or appear that way by not disclosing their reasons), but they aren’t taking away any money that has been promised.

The Ghost of Oppo > facw
09/27/2018 at 13:15

But it’s Google, I don’t see YouTube buckling under at the first sign of unsubstantiated legal pressure.

Takuro Spirit > facw
09/27/2018 at 13:17

Its really basic.

They’ve made the same videos for years.

They’ve made money on those videos for years.

For NO GIVEN REASON, they are no longer making money on those videos.

And will continue to not on any new video posted.

jasmits > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 13:22

I can’t find much pity honestly. There are the David F reiburgers, Matt Farahs, Doug Demuros and Rob Ferrettis of the world who use YouTube for what it is, a good platform, but have diversified streams of income and/or presences on other platforms and publications for when YouTube simply stops providing enough return on investment or something like this happens and then there’s the ‘Like, comment and subscribe!’ crowd who don’t provide value besides instant gratification from clickbait titles and therefore can’t just pick up a gig at Autotrader or Road and Track(or just focusing on running their real business ) if YouTube stops being a viable platform for one reason or another .

facw > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 13:25

Yep, which sucks for them. But that’s the weakness of relying on a third -party video host, especially when you have no agreement that prevents them from arbitrarily cutting you off.

Takuro Spirit > jasmits
09/27/2018 at 13:25

If they didn’t have a fall-back plan, then shame on them. If they’ve been living paycheck-to AdSense paycheck, then shame on them.

I’m just saying I feel their frustration and its bullshit of YouTube to treat its creators like this. Especially ones that have been around in a niche market for so long.

nerd_racing > facw
09/27/2018 at 13:26

My statement was a wild guess at what might have happened. There could be absolutely zero truth to it. BUT yes you can sue for just about anything, you won’t be successful, but you can try. A fool and their money are easily parted.

facw > The Ghost of Oppo
09/27/2018 at 13:27

If there was significant money in it for them they wouldn’t. But their take is low enough that they don’t really care. And of course it might not even be legal action, Google is an advertising giant, Ryder or Budget or someone might have enough ad spending to influence decisions as well.

jasmits > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 14:14

I understand the frustration... But still if it were me I’d move on with my life and be happy with just how much I managed to milk videos trucks crashing into a bridge that took zero creativity and minimal effort on my part.

I guess my point is that people who create worthwhile content can keep doing what they do without YouTube because what they create still has inherent value so some other platform will compensate them to create content for them and people who create videos of trucks crashing into bridges have already been overcompensated for minimal effort.

dogisbadob > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 14:53

They need to contact Peter Thiel

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Takuro Spirit
09/27/2018 at 15:03

Youtube shenanigans aside, I’ve enjoyed watching the lowest common denominator crash into that bridge for years. I still check in every few months. I’ll follow them to their new home, wherever that may be.

cesariojpn > Sovande
09/27/2018 at 16:51

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND TRUCKS HITTING BRIDGES CONTENT NOW???

Pretty sure the tons of other clickbaity content stealers on Youtube can satisfy your need. I mean, I can find a full page worth of other YT vids that steals 11foot8's content.

cesariojpn > Echo51
09/27/2018 at 16:54

Probably this is why. Without a “steady” stream of crash videos, 11foot8 probably didn’t meet the 4000 hour rule. I mean, they update only when some moron crashes their oversized T ruck/RV/Secret Military Prototype into the beam. And thats an uncontrollable variable; I think the rate is what, once every 2 or so months at this point?

Echo51 > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
09/27/2018 at 17:11

They will have to monetize in other ways, twitch for gaming content, patreon etc for others.

Echo51 > cesariojpn
09/27/2018 at 17:17

This is likely to just be youtube’s automated bullshit going around and ruining random channel’s lives, and it might easily get reinstated for monetization once the 30 days are up and they reapply. Even on the bad months they’re still garnering 100k views a month, which is enough if you keep those people on the video for just 20 seconds or so. Even less because some months the channel pulls 500k views or more.